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SEO Cloaking
Posted by: rsnake
Date: December 07, 2006 07:02PM

Interesting sob story about Google killing small companies, but the really interesting part is Shoemoney talking about cloaking. It's more prevalent than I think any of us realized.

- RSnake
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Re: SEO Cloaking
Posted by: maluc
Date: December 07, 2006 11:36PM

link?

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Re: SEO Cloaking
Posted by: jungsonn
Date: December 08, 2006 08:06AM

To be honest and a little oftopic, i never got any clients through Google, most of my clients came from word of mouth, and by other clients. i found my company in 1998 and still have a pagerank 3 and about 0-100 visitors a day. I don't even care to be in Google at all, really. I must also confes that i never buyed anything by searching with Google, most of the places i know are sites i knew, or heard on the radio/tv or from friends. So if anyone steals Google, i woudn't care less.

many confessions 2day :)

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Re: SEO Cloaking
Posted by: rsnake
Date: December 08, 2006 10:57AM

Ugh, sorry about that: http://www.forbes.com/home/technology/2006/12/06/internet-advertising-search-tech_cx_ag_1207google.html

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Re: SEO Cloaking
Posted by: t
Date: December 11, 2006 04:48PM

“Google may have teams of Ph.D.s working on this, but now the dollars have gotten so large that the black hats have their own teams of Ph.D.s to skirt the system,”

Great article...seems a little funny how people are able to identify googles BOT and changes their sites content to seem legit. So, what is googles problem on stopping this? How about some new IP's to switch things up, or change the GoogleBOT name or something eh?

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Re: SEO Cloaking
Posted by: rsnake
Date: December 11, 2006 05:01PM

I have a sneaking suspicion they have and do do this when they are investigating. But that said, how do they know what to investigate. And if I see someone else coming to spider my site outside of Google's IP range, why would I want them to waste my bandwidth on a site that no one is ever going to search for my stuff on. It's a hard problem to solve.

- RSnake
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Re: SEO Cloaking
Posted by: maluc
Date: December 12, 2006 01:44AM

Well with the prevalence (spelling?) of the google toolbar now.. they could always incorporate it into that, and get the users to spider the world for them. There'd be no way to tell a google spider from a legit user at that point.

The users may not be too happy when they find out about it though - especially those who don't have unlimited bandwidth per month. Hopefully they don't ask me to spider any kiddie pron sites - which would make for an interesting legal defense.. Google made me do it. :x

-maluc

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Re: SEO Cloaking
Posted by: rsnake
Date: December 12, 2006 03:16PM

I guess that's sorta the idea behind the web accelerator (it sure isn't to speed up the consumer's life, I'll tell you that much). Seeing if the user's content is in cache or not is a pretty sexy way to set up a canary account. Google is evil.

- RSnake
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Re: SEO Cloaking
Posted by: kefka
Date: March 09, 2007 01:04PM

I see where you're coming from maluc but I don't think it would be a good idea for them to have users submitting the content to Google's search engine.

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