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Hard to maintain collections/posts?
Posted by: Anonymous User
Date: June 15, 2009 04:11PM

Hey!

After having edited some posts for 8-9 times, risking to overwrite other peoples changes etc etc I kind of realized that this solution might not really be the best to gather the data we wish to.

I think we need another solution - and came thinking about two solutions:

* A plain Wiki
* Maybe a Google code project - JSlib and Caja showed it works perfectly
* A Trac - with tickets, possibilities to categorize, edit, comment etc etc.

I'd prefer the latter solution since I am working with a Trac all day long and really consider it to be one of the most flexible and customizable solutions possible. It's be perfect to tag vectors, comment on them if a certain browser release doesn't work anymore - combined with the fact that each and every vector or group of vectors cam be requested with an own URL and... one can see the changes that have happened. Right now there's no way to monitor what's happening.

A Google Code project would be pretty close to a full blown Trac - but also very suitable in my eyes.

So - what do you think?

Greetings,
.mario

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Re: Hard to maintain collections/posts?
Posted by: Gareth Heyes
Date: June 15, 2009 04:35PM

Yeah a slackers google group would be handy as we could do multiple wikis like jslibs. Me and thornmaker have started a XSS wiki but it would be better to incorporate it all into one. I would say though that the wiki should be maintained and even approved to stop less interesting or obvious stuff being posted.

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Re: Hard to maintain collections/posts?
Posted by: Anonymous User
Date: June 15, 2009 04:41PM

What about that for a start?

http://code.google.com/p/slackers/



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/15/2009 05:31PM by .mario.

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Re: Hard to maintain collections/posts?
Posted by: id
Date: June 15, 2009 05:23PM

god I would rather set up tra.ckers.org than let you guys use google.

-id

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Re: Hard to maintain collections/posts?
Posted by: Anonymous User
Date: June 15, 2009 05:29PM

@id That would be just perfect! The google stuff is a pita - only "benefit" it's free and fast to set up. Thx!

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Re: Hard to maintain collections/posts?
Posted by: id
Date: June 15, 2009 05:31PM

give me ideas on what software, perl based would be best, but whatever.

-id

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Re: Hard to maintain collections/posts?
Posted by: Anonymous User
Date: June 15, 2009 05:32PM

I personally love Trac - although it's python. Iirc it's pretty secure if set up right and has great rights management and features all the stuff we would probably need.

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Re: Hard to maintain collections/posts?
Posted by: sirdarckcat
Date: June 15, 2009 08:14PM

lol
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god I would rather set up tra.ckers.org than let you guys use google.
I'm ok with google.. but trackers sounds so el33t, that I concur.. trackers for the win!

Anyway, we should keep this forum for newcomers/discussion/keep slackers in our hearts.

Greetz!!

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/15/2009 08:15PM by sirdarckcat.

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Re: Hard to maintain collections/posts?
Posted by: Anonymous User
Date: June 16, 2009 05:02AM

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Anyway, we should keep this forum for newcomers/discussion/keep slackers in our hearts.
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Absolutely - no reason to abandon the board. It's just about where to store the stuff we found in a structured way. We haven't even touched SQLI obfuscation and other languages here - and it's already getting hard to maintain :)

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Re: Hard to maintain collections/posts?
Posted by: holiman
Date: June 16, 2009 06:09AM

Agree, some kinds of info wants to live in wikis, other feels at home in forums... Haven't tried trac, but tra.ckers sounds good :)

Go for it!

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Re: Hard to maintain collections/posts?
Posted by: Anonymous User
Date: June 16, 2009 07:03AM

Here's the Edgewall website: http://trac.edgewall.org/

The cool thing with Trac is that you can customize almost every label via config, have full control over the CSS, the activated features etc. Plus the XSS protection is quite good - it uses Genshi for markup building.

A use case could be: Create a vector as a ticket - with drop-downs to categorize it (IE 6-8, FF3, "Execute Code"). You can then add comments, test cases inf form of uploads, comment of the whole thing, select all vectors of the same category, have it as RSS, plaintext... somebody noticed i love Trac? :)

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Re: Hard to maintain collections/posts?
Posted by: sirdarckcat
Date: June 16, 2009 07:31AM

I dont understand track.. hahaha and to be true I hate it because I dont get it.. but well, I'll trust you and learn to use it..

Greetz!!

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Re: Hard to maintain collections/posts?
Posted by: Anonymous User
Date: June 16, 2009 07:59AM

The default config is a bit messy - after customizing it it will be like a ray of light - hehe :)

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Re: Hard to maintain collections/posts?
Posted by: sirdarckcat
Date: June 16, 2009 08:04AM

so.. so far:
http://tra.ckers.org/ points back to ckers.org, so the DNS stuff is done..

Maybe we will have one after all..

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Re: Hard to maintain collections/posts?
Posted by: thrill
Date: June 16, 2009 09:35AM

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somebody noticed i love Trac? :)

Guess you've never been woken up at 2am by some developers to let you know that python is throwing out some error and trac is failing to load eh?

However, since you say you've customized the config and I won't be me maintaining it, yeah, trac is a good idea! :)

--thrill

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Re: Hard to maintain collections/posts?
Posted by: Anonymous User
Date: June 16, 2009 09:45AM

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Guess you've never been woken up at 2am by some developers to let you know that python is throwing out some error and trac is failing to load eh?

Nup - not once in 4.5 years :) Although the earlier releases were quite stubborn then and when.

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Re: Hard to maintain collections/posts?
Posted by: id
Date: June 16, 2009 09:55AM

I started setting it up, but this week is pretty harsh for me, I'll try to get it up by Friday, if not sometime on the weekend.

-id

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Re: Hard to maintain collections/posts?
Posted by: Anonymous User
Date: June 16, 2009 10:01AM

@id If you need hand just ping me

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Re: Hard to maintain collections/posts?
Posted by: thrill
Date: June 16, 2009 10:52AM

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I'll try to get it up by Friday, if not sometime on the weekend.

Or maybe right after he gets the IRC server up.. ha!

--thrill

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Re: Hard to maintain collections/posts?
Posted by: sirdarckcat
Date: June 21, 2009 09:24PM

C:\>ping tra.ckers.org

Pinging ckers.org [67.78.61.227] with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 67.78.61.227:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),

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Re: Hard to maintain collections/posts?
Posted by: id
Date: June 23, 2009 11:24AM

I build the VM for it this weekend, I'm trying to do some basic due diligence on the security of the software.

-id

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Re: Hard to maintain collections/posts?
Posted by: thrill
Date: June 23, 2009 11:38AM

but but but.. it's python, it's naturally secure with 1/3 less calories than perl!

Hey.. I heard tikiwiki is secure.. <g>

--thrill

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Re: Hard to maintain collections/posts?
Posted by: Anonymous User
Date: June 23, 2009 05:12PM

@id Awesome. You can send me the config file if necessary and I will tweak it accordingly.

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Re: Hard to maintain collections/posts?
Posted by: id
Date: July 01, 2009 03:14PM

someone make a tra.ckers.org logo please!

-id

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Re: Hard to maintain collections/posts?
Posted by: thrill
Date: July 01, 2009 04:23PM

no photoshop for me, but the slogan could be "Because we too forget where we put crap".. :)

--thrill

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Re: Hard to maintain collections/posts?
Posted by: sirdarckcat
Date: July 01, 2009 08:55PM


we don't photoshop, we hack photoshop users.. egg, nvm..

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Re: Hard to maintain collections/posts?
Posted by: Anonymous User
Date: July 02, 2009 04:02AM

Maybe


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Re: Hard to maintain collections/posts?
Posted by: backbone
Date: July 02, 2009 05:48AM



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Re: Hard to maintain collections/posts?
Posted by: sirdarckcat
Date: July 02, 2009 06:11AM

oh.. those are cool!!

I think this one is better


or this one:


:)

Greeeetz!!

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just in case.. no, I'm not serious,.. Im just bored haha

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/02/2009 06:11AM by sirdarckcat.

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Re: Hard to maintain collections/posts?
Posted by: Gareth Heyes
Date: July 02, 2009 07:00AM



or maybe the worn out look is better:-



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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/02/2009 08:50AM by Gareth Heyes.

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